Sunday, November 18, 2007

Iraq war consequences

Is this good timing or what? Here is an article from SFGATE (SF Chronicle) today discussing why a war or any kind of attack would be a bad idea.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/11/18/INE6TCD71.DTL

Interestingly enough, this is what Dakota Bill said, too, in his comment to the introduction, which just proves he reads the news.

Also Dakota Bill noted what I was going to note re the biblical inconsistencies - that there are many web sites and scholars discussing tons of contradictions. Here's one:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

Some scholarly stuff....

I cannot find the reference to an East Coast professor of religion's book where he notes that serious scholars do not read the bible literally altho he believes it supports his religious positions.

Yes, inconsistencies are probably explained away by those believers who have blind faith, but a plain reading of many of the bible passages seems clear that they all can't be literally true and not in conflict w/ other passages. I think many people "cherry pick" the parts they like and ignore the parts they don't. Some things are not scientifically or physically possible - like covering the earth w/ water to a depth sufficient to cover all land and mountain ranges (there aren't that many water molecules on the planet). Or creating the stars after creating the light. And one has to wonder about all the references seeming to condone slavery, incest, multiple wives, etc., that we consider "immoral" today.

You describe Pasqual's wager late in your last reply. Pasqual was a famous mathematician who stated that there was a rational reason to believe in God. The reason was that he compared the cost of sacrificing Sundays against the possibility of hell and decided that the potential risk outweighed the costs of belief by far too much. Therefore, he stated that belief in God was the safe bet. However, don't you think an all knowing god would recognize a faker? You either have faith or you don't. Plus, I think I am living a life that will get me into the after life, if there is one.

That's it for today. I just hope our Prez is not about to give an order to bomb Iran. It is waaaay too early for that. We are far from out of options.

BTW - I set this up for anyone reading to add a comment or even write a new post. Feel free to jump in everybody.

Love to all, Michael

2 comments:

Ben said...

Hi guys,
I just wanted to respond to Michael's comment about being confident that he is living a life that will get him into the after life. What leads you to believe this? I know that I am not nearly as confident about myself. Where is the cut off line? How many bad things can I do and still get into heaven? I know that I could never earn a spot in heaven by myself, so that is why I trust in what Jesus did for me to do that.
Thanks, love you guys,
Ben

twinone said...

Goodmorning, I will never be able to comment on politics because I am not informed enough to do so but would love to take part in the biblical stuff. Michael, where do you see the bible supporting incest and multiple marriages etc in the bible? God hates divorce and loves sinners.... but never their sins. I have never been a cherry picker in the bible so would be in favor of any discussions concerning what you view as inconsistensies in the bible. The creation cannot be compared to what science interprets tho. God created the world and said it was good. Does that need to be questioned? And because sin entered the world through disobedience, we needed a perfect sacrifice to cover and pay for our sin.... that being Christ on the cross. He is the only way I can be made "good enough" for heaven. All my good works are as filthy rags, but through Christ righteousness I can be seen as clean. I am justified once (being seen just-as-if-Id never sinned) and am being sanctified (being made more like Christ) through out my life here on earth. I am a sinner... therefore I sin, but trusting in Christ payment for my sin when HE died on the cross I am seen as "clean" when my life on this earth is over. Enough for now... gotta go visit Mom and Dad Love, Mary